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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it really terrible how hateful and mean some people can be. Is this Junior High School? There are plenty of brides to go around but you people fight like there is only 1 in the world! So the people who want free photos, or who can&#039;t afford anything- got exactly what they wanted from the person who took their photos.That&#039;s GREAT! People at a mid or low budget get what they want when they hire a shoot &amp; burn photog. That&#039;s what fits their needs!! Many people are (*OH MY!!*) happy with that situation. They like getting all the images on disc. Like someone else said on this thread, Why is everyone so worried? If you are an amazing photographer and you charge a large chunk of money to brides who see the value in your work, and they are hiring you..... WHAT DO YOU CARE? The low budget bride isn&#039;t going to be booking you anyway. There is a need for people who offer affordable wedding photos. People are filling that need.  You won&#039;t be able to change that no matter how much you bitch and whine and pout. You need to rely on your amazing skills, degree, gear, personality etc and be happy to be in a different league! Be proud to be an elite photog.  In business, the competition is always changing. Maybe the competition 10 years ago was another  photographer, and today&#039;s competition is this new breed of photographer. Gotta get used to the changes or you will be really pissed off for the remainder of your career. Things are changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it really terrible how hateful and mean some people can be. Is this Junior High School? There are plenty of brides to go around but you people fight like there is only 1 in the world! So the people who want free photos, or who can&#8217;t afford anything- got exactly what they wanted from the person who took their photos.That&#8217;s GREAT! People at a mid or low budget get what they want when they hire a shoot &amp; burn photog. That&#8217;s what fits their needs!! Many people are (*OH MY!!*) happy with that situation. They like getting all the images on disc. Like someone else said on this thread, Why is everyone so worried? If you are an amazing photographer and you charge a large chunk of money to brides who see the value in your work, and they are hiring you&#8230;.. WHAT DO YOU CARE? The low budget bride isn&#8217;t going to be booking you anyway. There is a need for people who offer affordable wedding photos. People are filling that need.  You won&#8217;t be able to change that no matter how much you bitch and whine and pout. You need to rely on your amazing skills, degree, gear, personality etc and be happy to be in a different league! Be proud to be an elite photog.  In business, the competition is always changing. Maybe the competition 10 years ago was another  photographer, and today&#8217;s competition is this new breed of photographer. Gotta get used to the changes or you will be really pissed off for the remainder of your career. Things are changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael

It totally depends on how you structure it. Things are a little more blurry now with digital, but professional labs do provide a much higher quality product than a consumer lab. I&#039;m not against charging one really large fee for the artistic talent, and then giving the client everything around cost. But again, professionals have access to professional prints, enlargements, special products, albums etc. Again, its all in how you structure it.
Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael</p>
<p>It totally depends on how you structure it. Things are a little more blurry now with digital, but professional labs do provide a much higher quality product than a consumer lab. I&#8217;m not against charging one really large fee for the artistic talent, and then giving the client everything around cost. But again, professionals have access to professional prints, enlargements, special products, albums etc. Again, its all in how you structure it.<br />
Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, Miss Amateur with your Kodak Camera shooting your 21st wedding, Wow. What I feel sorry for is the Bride and Grooms you have shot their &quot;Once in a lifetime&quot; memories with your &quot;Once and a while&quot; wedding photography. Very difficult to explain to someone who has graduated from High School what is all entailed in a college education. The Brides and Grooms you have captured for free, got what they deserved. An under educated and very appreciated job for free. Would love to check out your website. Maybe we could all have a good laugh. So speaking of &quot;Smoke Screens&quot; perhaps you should look into what a real pro shoots, go to school, and look back at your Kodak beauty 10 years from now. Tell us what you think then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, Miss Amateur with your Kodak Camera shooting your 21st wedding, Wow. What I feel sorry for is the Bride and Grooms you have shot their &#8220;Once in a lifetime&#8221; memories with your &#8220;Once and a while&#8221; wedding photography. Very difficult to explain to someone who has graduated from High School what is all entailed in a college education. The Brides and Grooms you have captured for free, got what they deserved. An under educated and very appreciated job for free. Would love to check out your website. Maybe we could all have a good laugh. So speaking of &#8220;Smoke Screens&#8221; perhaps you should look into what a real pro shoots, go to school, and look back at your Kodak beauty 10 years from now. Tell us what you think then.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been asked to shoot people&#039;s wedding more than once and strenuously reject their invitations as I know how much responsibility you have to capture that once in a lifetime event and how difficult it can be. 

In the same breath I have to say I feel photographers who charge you a fee for the wedding and then charge you per print are shysters. I think the photographer can price the event appropriately and find charging for prints after the fact to be offensive. When I write software for a client they pay me an agreed rate and then they get to use the software where and how they please, why should it be any different in photography?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been asked to shoot people&#8217;s wedding more than once and strenuously reject their invitations as I know how much responsibility you have to capture that once in a lifetime event and how difficult it can be. </p>
<p>In the same breath I have to say I feel photographers who charge you a fee for the wedding and then charge you per print are shysters. I think the photographer can price the event appropriately and find charging for prints after the fact to be offensive. When I write software for a client they pay me an agreed rate and then they get to use the software where and how they please, why should it be any different in photography?</p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amateur - Wow, I&#039;m not even sure of what to say or where to begin, as I could talk for the rest of the year based on your post alone. 

6 to 8 pics that must be taken? Wow, hopefully your brides won&#039;t be crying some day when you&#039;ve missed all of the perfect moments throughout the day.

Hopefully your lighting is spot on in the dressing room, outside, and in the darkest of reception halls. 

Hopefully you know how to deal with the out of control mother in law.

Hopefully Grandma doesn&#039;t fall down when you have her walk outside for a photograph, and she ends up suing you and wiping you out because you have no business insurance. 

Hopefully nothing happens to your one camera, and you&#039;re left with nothing to shoot with as the bride walks down the aisle with her dad.

Okay, that&#039;s enough. Anyone else?
Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amateur &#8211; Wow, I&#8217;m not even sure of what to say or where to begin, as I could talk for the rest of the year based on your post alone. </p>
<p>6 to 8 pics that must be taken? Wow, hopefully your brides won&#8217;t be crying some day when you&#8217;ve missed all of the perfect moments throughout the day.</p>
<p>Hopefully your lighting is spot on in the dressing room, outside, and in the darkest of reception halls. </p>
<p>Hopefully you know how to deal with the out of control mother in law.</p>
<p>Hopefully Grandma doesn&#8217;t fall down when you have her walk outside for a photograph, and she ends up suing you and wiping you out because you have no business insurance. </p>
<p>Hopefully nothing happens to your one camera, and you&#8217;re left with nothing to shoot with as the bride walks down the aisle with her dad.</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s enough. Anyone else?<br />
Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Amateur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amateur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have shot some of my friends weddings with my kodak camera and they allways end up happy with the results, specially since I&#039;m free xD, I usually have a list of 6 to 8 pics that must be taken, next weekend I will get my 21st wedding and really don&#039;t know what the fuss of hiring a &quot;pro&quot; photographer is, those guys just offer mirrors and smoke to steal peoples money





..&gt;jk&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have shot some of my friends weddings with my kodak camera and they allways end up happy with the results, specially since I&#8217;m free xD, I usually have a list of 6 to 8 pics that must be taken, next weekend I will get my 21st wedding and really don&#8217;t know what the fuss of hiring a &#8220;pro&#8221; photographer is, those guys just offer mirrors and smoke to steal peoples money</p>
<p>..&gt;jk&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: mark manne</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark manne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a portrait photographer and ahve ahd to refuse many a wedding.  People don&#039;t understand that you need to be good at that paticular form of photography.  It took me a long time to hone my craft with portrait photography, so I know that while I could do a capable job, hiring someone who is a pro at that will do much better.
I tell them, they could hire a plumber to fix their car he&#039;&#039;s got allt he tools, but how good a job would he do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a portrait photographer and ahve ahd to refuse many a wedding.  People don&#8217;t understand that you need to be good at that paticular form of photography.  It took me a long time to hone my craft with portrait photography, so I know that while I could do a capable job, hiring someone who is a pro at that will do much better.<br />
I tell them, they could hire a plumber to fix their car he&#8221;s got allt he tools, but how good a job would he do?</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just shot my cousin&#039;s wedding. I am not a wedding photographer. I tried desperately to get her to hire a photographer. Gave her the link to PPA and said I&#039;d help her find someone that knew what they were doing. In the end, I buckled and chose to do it. I spent months pouring over wedding photography books, looking at local wedding photographers, asking advice of photographers in my camera club, freaking myself out. 

In the end, I thought I did okay for a first wedding - the reception was where I really shined - I like to do candid photojournalism style pictures - it&#039;s what&#039;s won me contests. But when it came time to do the posed portraits I was useless. I didn&#039;t know the first thing about posing people...I fumbled along and she got DECENT portraits - but nothing like she could have gotten if she&#039;d hired someone. She seemed happy with them. 

I keep joking how I&#039;m going to let my photographer design my wedding someday. &quot;What venue would YOU like...is the lighting okay for YOU...&quot; because it was the most gut wrenching, terrifying thing I&#039;d ever done.

I work at Wolf Camera - and I have printed so many &quot;PROFESSIONAL&quot; wedding photos and even just &quot;It&#039;s a gift from a friend&quot; wedding photos - it really upsets me when I see bad wedding photos. I used some of those as &quot;what not to do&quot; lessons. Over 5 years of printing I had a few examples. 

My other cousin liked what I did - and is getting married next year - I&#039;m now trying to convince her to hire a photographer. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll do a wedding again. But I&#039;d love to shoot the reception - that was a lot of fun and I did get some good shots in that type of environment - but posing was horrifying.

My family looks at my photos and like what they see. What they don&#039;t understand is the type of photography I do - is VASTLY different from anything required of a wedding photographer. I am a hobbyist - not a professional. I have no desire to be a professional. I take travel photos and landscapes. Much less pressure than what a wedding photographer goes through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just shot my cousin&#8217;s wedding. I am not a wedding photographer. I tried desperately to get her to hire a photographer. Gave her the link to PPA and said I&#8217;d help her find someone that knew what they were doing. In the end, I buckled and chose to do it. I spent months pouring over wedding photography books, looking at local wedding photographers, asking advice of photographers in my camera club, freaking myself out. </p>
<p>In the end, I thought I did okay for a first wedding &#8211; the reception was where I really shined &#8211; I like to do candid photojournalism style pictures &#8211; it&#8217;s what&#8217;s won me contests. But when it came time to do the posed portraits I was useless. I didn&#8217;t know the first thing about posing people&#8230;I fumbled along and she got DECENT portraits &#8211; but nothing like she could have gotten if she&#8217;d hired someone. She seemed happy with them. </p>
<p>I keep joking how I&#8217;m going to let my photographer design my wedding someday. &#8220;What venue would YOU like&#8230;is the lighting okay for YOU&#8230;&#8221; because it was the most gut wrenching, terrifying thing I&#8217;d ever done.</p>
<p>I work at Wolf Camera &#8211; and I have printed so many &#8220;PROFESSIONAL&#8221; wedding photos and even just &#8220;It&#8217;s a gift from a friend&#8221; wedding photos &#8211; it really upsets me when I see bad wedding photos. I used some of those as &#8220;what not to do&#8221; lessons. Over 5 years of printing I had a few examples. </p>
<p>My other cousin liked what I did &#8211; and is getting married next year &#8211; I&#8217;m now trying to convince her to hire a photographer. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll do a wedding again. But I&#8217;d love to shoot the reception &#8211; that was a lot of fun and I did get some good shots in that type of environment &#8211; but posing was horrifying.</p>
<p>My family looks at my photos and like what they see. What they don&#8217;t understand is the type of photography I do &#8211; is VASTLY different from anything required of a wedding photographer. I am a hobbyist &#8211; not a professional. I have no desire to be a professional. I take travel photos and landscapes. Much less pressure than what a wedding photographer goes through.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating a &quot;complete experience&quot; and successfully capturing the mood of the wedding has nothing to do with hiring a professional photographer. 

Many photographers who seem professional (have the equipment, training, fancy portfolio, and offer the &quot;complete experience&quot;), end up disappointing the client. My sister and several of her friends hired professionals with good reputations and were extremely disappointed with the results. Meanwhile, who ended up producing the most creative, beautiful and meaningful photos out of those weddings? An amateur photographer friend. 

A bride can go wrong either way: by hiring a talentless professional that she should be able to trust, or by hiring a friend who has no clue how to take a good picture. But don&#039;t just discount all amateurs when some of them can do a better job than the professionals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating a &#8220;complete experience&#8221; and successfully capturing the mood of the wedding has nothing to do with hiring a professional photographer. </p>
<p>Many photographers who seem professional (have the equipment, training, fancy portfolio, and offer the &#8220;complete experience&#8221;), end up disappointing the client. My sister and several of her friends hired professionals with good reputations and were extremely disappointed with the results. Meanwhile, who ended up producing the most creative, beautiful and meaningful photos out of those weddings? An amateur photographer friend. </p>
<p>A bride can go wrong either way: by hiring a talentless professional that she should be able to trust, or by hiring a friend who has no clue how to take a good picture. But don&#8217;t just discount all amateurs when some of them can do a better job than the professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole...

Anybody with access to a Martha Stewart book?  I would say that is rather insulting to the Florist professionals wouldn&#039;t you?  Sounds a bit like a pot calling a kettle black to me.

Theres a place for everybody.  I don&#039;t agree with the way the topic was addressed in the book but as someone who does offer a less expensive alternative to a master photographer, I can honestly say that I would not be in a position to charge the thousands that some charge.  But if someone wants me to shoot their wedding, I will charge accordingly and that may happen to be $975.00  I&#039;m not going to turn them away because they can&#039;t afford a &#039;real&#039; photographer.  And I will never get the experience I require if I do.  I havent had a complaint yet.  I only hope to get better, and I seem to be with each event I do.

Photography can be such a pretentious industy, and I think we need to all take a step back and see it for what it is.  And in this financial climate, there has to be a middle man to suit peoples needs.

Theyre just my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole&#8230;</p>
<p>Anybody with access to a Martha Stewart book?  I would say that is rather insulting to the Florist professionals wouldn&#8217;t you?  Sounds a bit like a pot calling a kettle black to me.</p>
<p>Theres a place for everybody.  I don&#8217;t agree with the way the topic was addressed in the book but as someone who does offer a less expensive alternative to a master photographer, I can honestly say that I would not be in a position to charge the thousands that some charge.  But if someone wants me to shoot their wedding, I will charge accordingly and that may happen to be $975.00  I&#8217;m not going to turn them away because they can&#8217;t afford a &#8216;real&#8217; photographer.  And I will never get the experience I require if I do.  I havent had a complaint yet.  I only hope to get better, and I seem to be with each event I do.</p>
<p>Photography can be such a pretentious industy, and I think we need to all take a step back and see it for what it is.  And in this financial climate, there has to be a middle man to suit peoples needs.</p>
<p>Theyre just my thoughts.</p>
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